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ROCK REPORT (Belgium) 1998
By Michel Verhaeghe


INTERVIEW - TOMMY DENANDER

Although he may not have the same reputation yet as some of his fellow American guitar colleagues, Tommy Denander is still one of the very best guitar players around the world. No wonder that the little man from Stockholm, Sweden already has played together with acts as Toto, Richard Marx, Fee Waybill, Bill Champlin, Glenn Hughes, Bruce Gaitsch, Janey Clewer, Bobby Kimball, Randy Jackson (Journey), Jonathan Moffet (Madonna), Dan Reed, Talisman, Lion's Share, House Of Shakira, Jeff Scott Soto, Tommy Nilsson, Talk Of The Town, Dr Alban, Mikael Erlandsson, Annika Ljunberg (Rednex), Dag Finn (with Mick Ronson), Matt Sorum (Guns 'n Roses), Zakk Wylde, Stone Temple Pilots and many many more. Meeting Tommy at his appartment in his native Äkersberga, the six string miracle man had a lot to say about his career...

At one point, you were a very promising tennis player. Why didn't you pursue a possible career as a professional tennis player instead of a career in the music business?

The way I felt back then was that you can be a really good tennis player until you're thirty while you can be a musician all your life. I wanted to spend my time with something I could do for the rest of my life. But yeah, I was really promising back then as I did play as a semi-professional for about eight years. It was a lot of fun though.

In '83, you met Mats 'Mappe' Björkman and started up ATC, right?

Not really, as the band was already formed in 1978. But I met him in Stockholm just by coincidence.
At the time he was talking to a friend to find a new guitar player for his band. Of course, I just jumped on the occasion and went down for the job. This way actually, the very first time I was in a hard rock band but things turned out really well for me.

Back then, manager Mikael Lundstedt was kind of important for the band.

We met Mikael through Per Liljefors, the drummer in ATC. Mikael wasn't really a manager but more of a smart business man who saw some potential in the band. Therefore, he paid for the demo and everything else. Just before that, I wrote my first hard rock song which ended up on the demo tape.
Polygram really liked the song I had written and came down to one of our shows in Stockholm.
We played a horrible show in front of only 60 people, but we still signed the deal afterwards while sitting in the dressing room.

Can you tell us some more about this "Cut In Ice" album?

We had a budget of 4.000 US Dollar and had nine days to record and mix the whole album. We ended the whole thing in only six days and partied for the next three days. It was a lot of fun, perhaps due to the fact that this was my very first album recording. It was a great experience I'll never forget.
It was also funny, because a lot of magazines and papers were raving about my performance back then. But now I think I just did a crap job on that record. But hey, I was only fifteen years old then, so I couldn't care less.

Nevertheless, your next goal was to become a well known studio musician. And you ever worked for free ...

I did work for free because I was still so young. I started doing sessions when I was only fourteen years old. So I had to call people and tell them I wanted to play. So I decided to work for free instead, otherwise people would just laugh at me and I never would have had the chance to play in the first place. I just had nothing to lose. Luckily enough, my reputation as a guitar player grew day by day and people really started to take me seriously. That's how the ball got rolling. Later on, I got paid for my services.

In '85, ATC broke up and you went to the States for the very first time.

Back then, ATC had a new manager from Bulgaria who spend a lot of money in the band. He made a very expensive, but lousy video. I think it was the worst video ever made by a hard rock band.
Anyway, he spent so much money that he really felt he almost owned us. At one point, he suggested to get rid of the vocalist as he really didn't do a fine job. The pressure just got bigger and bigger. This was the turning point for 'Mappe' Björkman, who was the best of friends with Håkan. So it was just impossible for him to sack his best friend. Another reason why ATC split up was that Mappe wanted to create a much darker sound, while the rest of us wanted to go for a more commercial sound.

Then you were in a band called Down Town. Tell us some more about this.

Actually, this band was formed by myself and both the drummer and bass player of ATC. Down Town was fronted by a female singer called Yvonne Nordlund, who also had done some backing vocals on the first Jean Beauvoir album. We did a couple of shows and even recorded a demo. And although Yvonne was a very beautiful and talented artist, we really had to sack her because of several reasons. One of them was that she oftenly didn't show up at rehearsals or even concerts because she was cryin' over a broken relationship. For some reason, it seems to be very hard to work with a female singer, although I felt pretty sad about it as Yvonne was extremely talented.

Yvonne eventually got replaced by Magnus Lange, who also grew up in Åkersberga.

Magnus was a real musical genius while having a voice pretty similar to David Coverdale. Unfortunelately, Magnus had diffirent interests and the whole band just drifted apart.

In '86, you changed the name of the band to Cheese. Why this silly name?

It was an extremely silly name but at that point, I guess we just wanted to be a party band as the line up had changed completely. We didn't want others to take us seriously as we didn't care about anything at all. That's why the lyrics of the single "Cheese Won't Come Easy" were totally rubbish as there wasn't one sentence that goes with the next. This song is absolutely about nothing at all. The B-side of this single was called "Hold On" and this was kind of a "normal" song. I'm sure the single could have done a lot better if we had taken it seriously. Especially because both tracks sounded pretty good.
It's really funny to realise that of all the stuff that was released back then, the Cheese-single got reviewed by Kerrang!.

Still in '86, you met Paul Rivera for the very first time. Who's he?

Paul is the founder and owner of Rivera Amps, an American company that makes guitar amplifiers.
He's also the guy who modified amps for Steve Lukather, Larry Carlton, Lee Ritenour and Jay Graydon. All this players got a great sound thanks to Rivera who used to work for Fender Amps. Meeting Paul Rivera at the world's biggest music fair in Frankfurt (Germany) really changed my life. First of all, we became friends in about two seconds. He invited me to the States and told me that if I've should come over, he would endorse me with his equipment as he really liked my way of playing. Secondly, I knew that through Paul I would get to know all these great musicians and maybe that would help me further on with my music career.

 Another important person in your career is Matthias Bohman, right?

Actually, I've met most of the important people in my life at music fairs. I met Matthias at a music fair here in Stockholm. He was working for an Australian company called Fairlight that makes the most amazing but very expensive keyboards. Matthias must have been only 17 or 18 at the time when I met him for the first time and we became close friends ever since. He's also one of the best keyboard players I've ever seen in my life. At one point, he just moved to America in '87 and he asked me to join him instead.

 In the States, you've met with Paul Rivera again but you also met the guys of Toto. How was it working with these guys?

I met Steve Lukather in January '88 at the NAMM show, a big music fair in Los Angeles. I've also met Larry Carlton and Abel Laboriel and we got off right away. I actually had a very good reason to meet Lukather because Anders Tegner, a Swedish TV-reporter had called me to try and arrange to set up an interview with Toto for Swedish television. Lukather found out I was a great guitar player as well and we became good friends. Luke really helped me out by raving about me to other great artists like Jeff Beck.

 As Lukather was constantly raving about you, why did you decide to return to Sweden, instead of becoming a well known session player in the States?

Well, I did a few sessions back then as I played along side Zakk Wylde (Ozzy Osbourne) and Matt Sorum (Guns 'n Roses). But it was really hard to get into the bigger sessions. Besides I wasn't really pushing myself to get into the scene so fast, because I was only twenty years old at the time. I felt I still had a lot to learn. So I only tried to be a good student for about things for three years. But yeah, I've could have become the next Michael Landau or Dann Huff, but I'm sure I wasn't really prepared for it mentally. Especially because it really is a tough job to be a famous session player. And perhaps I could have ruined everything for myself if I should have decided to really go for the goal. But I was pretty confident with myself as I didn't feel in a hurry. As when it comes of returning to Sweden, I just felt that after three years I fulfilled more dreams than I probably ever could think of. I've met all these great players and famous movie stars and I guess I just started to take things for granted. I just got used to stand beside Bette Midler or Sean Connery at the supermaket, you know. So one night, I just decided to return to Sweden because I really thought this was the best thing for me to do. And it
just felt pretty good to be back in my native country.

 Back in Sweden, you also formed a band called Speedy Gonzalez. Tell us more about that.

Speedy Gonzales was a heavy metal band in the style of Judas Priest which featured vocalist Thomas Vikström and drummer Dalton Dahlberg. As we grew up together, I knew Thomas very well and he did a lot of backing vocals on the albums I played on
as well. But up till then we never had a serious band together and as he was no longer in Talk Of The Town, we decided to start our own band.
We both wanted to do something really heavy. We also got Dalton Dahlberg who, although I didn't really like him as a drummer, of coursewas a very household name in the Swedish rock scene. But I eventually left the band later on due to personal conflicts in the band. That was pretty sad though as we were on the verge of signing a deal with a major record company from the States. The whole Scandinavian press was already praising us as we played a great concert on one of the big festivals here in Sweden, along side Candlemass, Return and Pretty Maids.

 What did you do then exactly?

Well, I started to do a lot of session work again and Ialso started to build my own recording studio here in Stockholm. Then I met the guys of Toto again when they gave a concert in Luleå.
At one point, I asked them if they would be interested to play on my album if I could get a deal. They told me they wouldn't mind this at all. So I went to this top man of Sony Sweden and told him the whole story. On the flight back from Luleå to Stockholm, Lukather was raving again about me and this guy eventually invited me in the Sony headquarters.
By the time I arrived there, the contract was already on the table.
Even though the people at Sony had never heard one of my songs before.
And although I was pretty pleased about getting signed, I felt really akward that I got signed to Sony only because the guys in Toto told them it was the best thing for them to do.
Once I was signed, I went to the States for about three weeks to start recording ten songs with Jeff, Mike & Steve Porcaro along side David Paich.
I also was supposed to work with both Michael Landau and Steve Lukather, but Landau had to leave town to go on tour.
I even was supposed to do the album at Jay Graydon's place with Jay as engineer and co-producer. But things didn't really work out between the two of us, so we just had to cancel these plans.
This eventually led to Lukather cancelling this date as well as Graydon was telling all kinds of crap about me, while both him and Lukather were pretty drunk at the time. So Luke got angry with me, which led to Jeff getting really angry with Luke, as Jeff knew that I was right and Graydon was very much wrong. It became a pretty bad time between Luke and myself, but luckily enough we worked out things in the long run.

 You've also been working with Jess Sutcliffe.

Very much so and I was really pleased with this as he worked as an engineer for Toto on most parts of their "Kingdom Of Desire" album. He's also been working with Prince, Jon Anderson, Vangelis and other famous artists. His wife was actually the album co-ordinator who helped me to put everything together.

 So the album was ready to be released, but ...

Well, what happened was that Sony told me that they wouldn't promote my album at all as they had so many other albums to put money in.
One of them was actually Michael Jackson's "Dangerous" album. They were willing to release it, but that was about it.
Needless to say I felt very disappointed as I didn't want my album to get disappeared after all the hard work I had done.
So I took a bank loan and bought back the album from Sony. I've sat on these tapes for seven years now and I work with them as I'm using these tapes with Andreas Eklund for our Radioactive project.
We hope to finish off the recording for this album this year and it'll feature both Andreas and Bobby Kimball on vocals.
We also hope to get Norwegian Geir Rönning to be the third vocalist on our album. Believe me when I say that Geir is yet another extremely talented vocalist.

 As you left Sony, didn't you want to release your album through another label then?

Well yeah, because I've been speaking to a couple of other major labels. But for some reason, they just didn't seem to care that I had recorded the album with the guys of Toto. They just didn't bother about it at all. So I guess there was no point in getting myself another deal then.
Now I think it's better to get signed to a smaller label like BlueStone as they work very hard for their artists.

 Alongside all this, you've also played in a coverband called Horny Strings. What was that all about?

At a friday night, I got a phone call from both Thomas Vikström and Jake Samuel who were saying that they had to play a gig the next day at a cool club here in Stockholm. They asked me if I was interested to join them as it did pay well. I agreed, but wondered what kind of stuff we were going to play.
We decided to play cover tunes of Whitesnake, Alice Cooper, Van Halen and Kiss. Former Mogg guitar player Thomas Carsfors and bass player Pontus Egberg (now Lion's Share) also came to rehearse with us and it sounded really great.
As we did play for a full house, we felt to do this again.
So we decided to continue this type of thing, but of course we needed a name.
After a search we just ended up calling ourselves Horny Strings, because both Thomas and myself were so hungry, so horny to play our strings.
But as Pontus did have further commitments with his band, we kind of replaced him by Marcel Jacob.
I was really thrilled by this, because I had never played together with him before.
From '91 until '93, I guess we must have played over 80 gigs with this cover band and
we've always got very good ratings and reviews.
The great principle about all this was that we never rehearsed the songs we were going to play the same night. We only played them once at the sound check before going on stage.

 Didn't you have any plans to get seriously with this act at all?

Not really, although I should say we had serious plans of recording a live album, but we never discussed the matter of recording any original material. I guess that it was kind of impossible for us to get seriously with this act as Jake and Marcel were still very much involved with Talisman while Thomas and myself had our own ideas and targets to fulfill. Horny Strings was no more than a relaxation for all of us.

 That year, in '92 to be precisely, you also worked together with the succesful rap artist Dr. Alban. That's more of a surprise to all of us ...

They wanted to do a hard rock meets rap song against racism. I agreed immediately as I've always been against drugs and racism.
So I thought it was a great idea to do this, especially because Dr.Alban was one of the best selling acts in the world back then. I guess he was the most succesful rap artist in '92.
It also felt very flattering as they had been asking around who was the best guitar player in Stockholm. As my name turned up everywhere, Dr. Alban contacted me to do this song with him.
So we went into the studio with the now very famous producer Dennis Pop, who also has been working with the likes of Ace Of Base, Backstreet Boys and Bryan Adams.
Just to work with him was really cool and it turned out really good.
A couple of weeks later, Dr. Alban called me again to ask if I knew a good keyboard player.
I told him I could play keyboards myself and got the job for his upcoming tour right away. Before I realised it, I was on a tour playing keyboards in front of thousands of people. We mostly played in Scandinavia and Germany and some gigs in France as well. Nevertheless, I still had another go at my solo career.
Therefore I contacted both Thomas Vikström and Tommy Nilsson with whom I've met earlier on.
At the time, I guess I've must have tried out 7 or 8 different vocalists as I don't sing myself. We did some demos together but nothing happened really.

 You've also been working on some sound tracks for... porn movies.

Well, now this is exciting, huh?
For a short while my former girlfriend and myself shared an appartment with this guy who was a music producer.
He had lots of connections with some of the biggest porn companies here in Sweden that get released by the Swedish Aktuell Rapport magazine.
He had done some music for the first video in a serie like "Sweden's Amateur Home Video".
He asked me if I was interested to write some tunes for the second movie. As it did pay well, I just agreed with it.
But it also was pretty strange to hear my own music while people were having sex with each other.
I guess I must have written music for about four or five of these sex movies.

 Later on, you also met Andy Eklund and this was the start of Radioactive.

Both Tommy Nilsson and myself were special guests at a singing contest in Norrtälje. Andy won this contest without any problem as there was no competition for him at all. At one point, Tommy mentioned that Andy was the right man to sing on my album. I agreed with him and I started talking with Andy to finally ask him if he would be interested to sing on my record. We've been like brothers ever since. Actually, it was Magnus at MTM Music who told me it would be better to make this a band situation instead of a solo album. I couldn't agree more and I suggested him about six names from which the name Radioactive was chosen. It was my favorite choice too as it does sound a little
dangerous at first. Also if things should go well, then these tracks will be kind of active on the radio.
So the name of the band is a bit similar to Airplay, which is still one of my all time favourite albums.

 Then things almost went completely wrong for you. What happened?

On July 23, 1993, my whole life completely changed within seconds. From '90 till '93, I had worked about 15 to 17 hours a day, seven days a week. I was completely stressed out and I just ran out of energy.
I just had a huge collapse and had to be taken to hospital in very critital condition.
At the time, I just thought I was going to die as I almost couldn't move my arms and legs for about a year and a half.
This all happened about five years ago now. And this may sound rather strange now but looking back at it, I must admit that the past five years have been the best of my life so far.
Just now I started to realise what kind of stupid things I had been up to when I was a teenager.
I did some soul searching and this has helped me a lot. Nowadays, I do things totally diffirently, although it seems I'm pretty busy again. But I've learned my lesson and now I only work when I feel like it.
And when I do feel tired, I just tell the people I'm working with I'm taking two or three days off. And it really pays off as my health is gettin' better all the time now.

 From '94 till now, you've been busy on releasing about ten albums.

Until now, I've released only two albums with "Skeleton" and "Less Is More". I also released "Limited Access" but this album is more of a collector's item.
As a matter of fact, I will only release six albums instead of ten including "Yeah" and "Boneyard".
The "Yeah"-album will contain soul/R&B while "Boneyard" will be the heaviest of 'em all because this album will be filled with brutal heavy metal.
Right now, I'm also working on a blues album, as well as a rather acoustic album, although some electric guitars will be heard on it as well.

 Why all this diffirent styles of music?

When I wanted to do my solo album, it was impossible for me to decide what kind of style to play as I do love all kinds of music. I like anything from westcoast/AOR to country, from heavy metal to the Spice Girls. So the idea just grew on me to release several diffirent albums with all kinds of music.
I just felt I could do one westcoast album, one jazz album, one world music album, one blues , hardrock and/or experimental album. I don't think anybody else had done this before, while no other artist had debuted with two solo albums at the same time. I always liked the idea of doing things that no one has done before. That's very much the way I am.

 You've been very busy for the last couple of years now. And if everything goes according to plan, you'll be releasing about 10.000 records in the (near) future. So tell us.

Besides my solo albums, my partner Ricky Delin and myself are part of a blues album "Tight To The Blues", that we've produced for an artist called David Book. Ricky and myself also produced an album for Sayit which will feature Thomas Vikström, Andy Eklund, Geir Rönning and some other great vocalists.
This will be a great westcoast/pop album. Right now, Andy is also recording the lead
vocals for a hard rock album under the name of Blind. This project features former House Of Shakira bass player Bernt Ek, Ricky Delin and myself. I also finished the "Counterparts" album which features myself together with Bruce Gaitsch. Bill Champlin is singing on one track on this truly amazing album. We hope to release this record very soon as we're now shopping around for the right deal. I'm also going to be part of a tribute album to David Foster, while I've also done a song for an American tribute album to Journey, although it's not very likely that this album will see the light of day.
I'm doing an R&B/soul album together with Ricky which is called "Colors In Tune".
This is probably going to be the most commercial project I've ever been involved with. After the summer, we'll be producing a solo album for Andy Eklund, as well as a solo album for Bernt Ek.
The style on his album will be kind of Peter Gabriel meets Toto meets Van Halen. So this really will be unique.
I've also worked together with two other Swedish guitarists. In that sense, we'll be releasing the album "Guitar Workshop Sweden". Another interesting album will be "Planet Guitar", a guitar compilation album which will feature fourteen guitarists from all over the world. And the list goes on and on and on ...
But the biggest projects I'm working on right now is Ricky Delin's solo album and of course Radioactive as well. Both Ricky and myself also formed a project/band which will feature the likes of Bobby Kimball, Vince DiCola, Steve Porcaro, David Hungate and a Swedish drummer called Per Lindvall who is one of the most famous session players in the world. It also features guest performances from Michael McDonald, Jimi Jamison, Mickey Thomas, Bill Champlin, Joseph Williams, Jason Scheff among lots of others. We've got about eight songs on demo so far, but we're writing four to five new ones at the time. It'll be classic westcoast/AOR, very much in the style of Toto's "Isolation", although we don't want to copy them in any way. This album will be one of the
highlights of the '90's with a sound that will remind everybody of all these classics from the '80's.  Other plans?
Of course, because both Ricky and myself will start recording with a Swedish guy called PJ which will be a cool mix between Chris Rea, Dire Straits and Garth Brooks. We really believe in this artist as we think he has lots to offer here. We'll also be working with Ulrik, a Swedish artist that already got the attention of Magnus Söderkvist of MTM Music. If he'll get signed by MTM, we'll produce his album which will be of all interest for the fans of pure AOR and melodic rock.

 To end this interview here, I'm pretty curious to know who your five favourite guitar players are.

In no specific order, this must be Steve Stevens, Jimi Hendrix, Michael Landau, Eddie Van Halen and Steve Lukather. Although I only like the old Lukather because the way he played back then in the 80's made a huge impact on me.
I'm not really into freaks as Steve Vai and Yngwie Malmsteen. Vai should be playing in a circus to show all his tricks. He has some very amazing tricks, a few pretty good songs, but very little feelings in the way he plays. Yngwie on the other hand has the problem of doing the same thing over and over and over again. Although he has a lot of feeling and he still is an excellent guitar player. So all the credit to him for that.

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